No, really, how many?

So this morning I was listening to Attorney Field Marshal Gonzo’s stuttery explanation of how ‘mistakes were made’ in the firing of several US Attorneys who happened to be actually doing their job rather than laying off Republicans and investigating only Democrats, about how information mystically made it’s way from DoJ to the House, and how he was misinformed by his own chief of staff, and how all these things magically happened while he was looking the other direction… and I want to know something.

And to find out, I’m going to do something unusual–I’m going to open up anonymous and non-member posting on this thread. But there are ground rules, more of which later.

What I want to know from any Bushies who might be reading this (yeah, like there are any) is this: exactly how many more laws do Bush & Co. have to break, and/or how many more lies do they have to tell, before you admit that he just might not be OMG TEH GR8TEST PREZDINT EVAH!!!!11!1♥♥♥♥♥!!!1!

How many more American soldiers have to die needlessly before you admit that lying us into Iraq might not have been a good idea?

For extra credit, explain any of the following: how outing Valerie Plame wasn’t treason, why Newt Gingrich isn’t a hypocrite of the highest order, and why we should believe the so-called “intelligence” on Iran they’re trying to float now when they both ignored the good and relied on the bad (or made-up) intelligence to lie us into Iraq?

Now, here’s the ground rules. I will delete any post that contains any of the following:

  • ad hominem attacks, name calling, questioning the parentage, morals, character, orientation, etc. of myself or anyone else who doesn’t happen to toe the Dubya line.
  • Any attempt to rationalize the lies of Dubya, Cheney et al. with anything that can be translated as “Clinton lied too!” Not only does that not justify it, that’s completely beside the point. And if you’re trying to tell me that it’s okay for Dubya to lie us into a war with thousands of American dead and tens (possibly hundreds) of thousands of dead Iraqi civilians, you need therapy and/or heavy medication.
  • Any claims that Dubya at al. have not lied, broken any laws, or made any mistakes. Feel free to point out that they are unindicted, however. But the idea that this crew has somehow glided through the last six years in a state of holy grace is too ludicrous to countenance.
  • Anything that I deem to be more Bushie fingerpointing and blame dodging. It’s gone on too long.

Don’t like the rules? Too bad. Don’t post. My journal, and I’m not letting a Rove-style distraction campaign get under weigh. If you can post rationally and reasonably, I’m more than happy to respond in kind. Hell, for that matter, it’s my journal, and if I wanted to, I could just delete any post I wanted to. That’s Dubya’s America–if you got the power, you can screw over anyone you want to, and you don’t even need a good reason for it. I, however, will just set ground rules. I shan’t be surprised, though, if there are a large number of deleted posts left by Anonymous Cowards, because Bushies don’t believe rules should apply to them–only to other people who disagree with them.

Basically, I am sick and tired of this state of bliss that Dumbya & co. claim to live under, where ‘mistakes were made’ rather than ‘[this person] made a mistake and is going to be penalized for it’, and their blind followers just smile and nod and genuflect. So, if there are any of you out there, please explain yourself.


14 comments so far

  1. chilayse on

    My father used to be an extreme Bush supporter. (He’s also a devout sunday christian. -.- And so on..) He doubts Bush’s capability..

    Since he likes to talk about politics I’ll ask him your specific questions….and see what he says.

  2. nsingman on

    I’m no Bushie, though as a libertarian, I have roughly as much contempt for Democrats as I do for Republicans. I believe that Bush deserves to be impeached. Any president who usurps powers not granted by the Constitution deserves impeachment. Bush is an awful president – a spendthrift and a warmonger, and you’d be hard pressed to find any of my fellow libertarians who support him. His administration has lied, broken laws, and gotten us into a wholly unnecessary, unjust and unconstitutional war.

    However, the Democrats are in charge of the House of Representatives, which is where a bill of impeachment must begin. Unlike the Senate, the House rules enable the majority to do pretty much anything it wants. Anything! There is no filibuster, and the Republicans in the House can stand on their heads, scream or boycott and it couldn’t stop the majority. So why won’t the Democrats impeach Bush? Even if the Senate would never convict him, it would make a strong political statement.

    • The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester on

      The problem, of course, is how to make impeachment look legitimate rather than just tit-for-tat retaliation for the Clinton witchhunt, utterly regardless of how much Chimpy deserves impeachment. And that problem is exacerbated by a media that’s beholden to the business interests that have the biggest stake in keeping Dumbya propped up.

      Do he and Cheney deserve impeachment? Hell yes they do, and a nice long stint in The Hague for a war crimes trial. But the current Realpolitik makes that not especially possible. At this stage, it’s enough to slowly and correctly start the investigations and let the snowball build itself. Once the press smells blood and gets a few attention-grabbing headlines out there, their corporate masters will be more interested in the hot news and the profits those generate than in protecting their boy in Washington.

  3. cashewlou on

    *picks his nose in public and wipes it on his Nascar shirt, pausing to adjust the yellow ribbon on his pickup truck*

    Bush is the bestest Christian Amurkin preznit ever. Blow Job Billy was a pot-smoking, fag-lovin’ atheist, and it took a true patreeutt like Dubya to rescue Amurka and make it the white, racist, homophobic, Christian-only country the Founding Fathers intended it to be.

    Support the troops! 9-11! Four more years! Deport all Mexicans! 9-11!

    • The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester on

      That is probably the most accurate (if verbose) translation of sieg heil that I’ve ever seen. ;)

      • cashewlou on

        It is the heart of their argument: blind loyalty flying in the face of any logic or facts.

        • The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester on

          The heart of their position, maybe. It’s not an argument–an argument permits give and take and listens to the other side, at the very least to form an effective refutation of it.

          • cashewlou on

            Well, I meant “argument” in the O’Reilly sense: here is what I have to say, and I am right.


            Dissension? Disagreement?

            Cut his mike! I can’t hear you! LA LA LA LA LA!

            • The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester on

              I’m told the fastest was to get hung up on by O’Lie-lly is to just say ‘Franken’. :)

              • cashewlou on

                Or better yet, “Olbermann.” BillO hates him with an obsessive, paranoid intensity.

                Which is why I love Keith Olbermann forever and ever and ever. o(:o)

                • The Rev Dr Sherwood Forrester on

                  My favorite Keith Olbermann segment ever was when his clip was of O’Lie-lly having another on-air hissy fit and threatening to quit. Olbermann got up and danced around his desk. XD

        • johnpalmer on

          You’re actually pretty close to the truth. A lot of the hardcore rightwing is stuck in attack/defend mode. They’re not looking for truth, but to “win”, and they “win” if they stand their ground against another dishonest liberal attack against the Great Man, George Bush (or whomever).

  4. johnpalmer on

    Re: Newt’s hypocrisy, it depends on *why* you want to name him a hypocrite. Some things (pursuing the President for being deceitful (but not quite lying) about sex while having an affair) aren’t hypocritical. Some things (letting the whole affair turn into a “see how sleazy Clinton is?” Aren’t you all grossed out?”) are definitely hypocritical.

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